Legislature(2021 - 2022)BARNES 124

03/31/2022 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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08:08:10 AM Start
08:09:16 AM Presentation: Community Service Block Grant Program by the Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development
08:15:01 AM Presentation: Division of Community and Regional Affairs and Rural Cap
09:33:16 AM Adjourn
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Regional Affairs (DCRA) and RurAL Cap
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
    HOUSE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                   
                         March 31, 2022                                                                                         
                           8:08 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sara Hannan, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Calvin Schrage, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                                 
Representative Ken McCarty                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josiah Patkotak, Vice Chair                                                                                      
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: COMMUNITY SERVICE BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM BY THE                                                                      
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE~ COMMUNITY & ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: DIVISION OF COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS AND                                                                    
RURAL CAP                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PAULETTA BOURNE, Grant Administrator                                                                                            
Division of Community and Regional Affairs                                                                                      
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Gave a  PowerPoint  presentation  on  the                                                             
Community  Service Block  Grant  state  plan; answered  questions                                                               
during  the   PowerPoint  presentation  on  the   Public  Hearing                                                               
Community Service Block Grant.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
TIEL SMITH, Chief Executive Officer                                                                                             
Rural Alaska Community Action Program, Inc. (RurAL CAP)                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Gave a  PowerPoint  presentation  on  the                                                             
Community Services Block Grant.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:08:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SARA HANNAN  called the  House  Community and  Regional                                                             
Affairs  Standing  Committee  meeting   to  order  at  8:08  a.m.                                                               
Representatives  McCarty   (via  teleconference),   Schrage,  and                                                               
Hannan  were  present  at  the call  to  order.    Representative                                                               
Drummond arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:  Community  Service  Block Grant  Program  by  the                                                               
Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development                                                                        
   PRESENTATION: Community Service Block Grant Program by the                                                               
    Department of Commerce, Community & Economic Development                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:09:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be a  presentation on  the Community  Service Block  Grant (CSBG)                                                               
program  by  the Department  of  Commerce,  Community &  Economic                                                               
Development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:09:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAULETTA BOURNE,  Grant Administrator, Division of  Community and                                                               
Regional Affairs,  Department of  Commerce, Community  & Economic                                                               
Development,  gave a  PowerPoint  presentation titled  "Community                                                               
Service Block  Grant (CSBG)  State Plan"  [hard copy  included in                                                               
the committee packet].                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:10:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 8:10 a.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:10:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOURNE explained  how CSBG funds are allocated,  as she moved                                                               
to the second  slide, titled "CSBG -  General Information," which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        Federal program funded by the U.S. Department of                                                                        
     Health and Human Services (HHS)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     •  For  the  Federal  Fiscal Year  (FFY)  2023  funding                                                                    
     cycle, we anticipate receiving $2.3M to $2.5M.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     • By statute:                                                                                                              
        95% goes  to Community  Action Agency:  Rural Alaska                                                                    
     Community Action Program (RurAL CAP).                                                                                      
       5% for State administrative costs                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOURNE continued  on slide 3, titled "CSBG  - Purpose," which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Purpose and Goals:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     • Alleviate the causes and conditions of poverty.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • Revitalization of low-income communities.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     • Empower low-income families  and individuals in rural                                                                    
     and urban areas to become fully self-sufficient.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOURNE added  that the CSBG is particularly  for families who                                                               
are  attempting  to  transition  off  of  state  programs.    She                                                               
continued  to   slide  4,  titled   "CSBG  -  State   Plan"  that                                                               
highlighted  the requirements  to  be able  to  receive a  grant,                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     42 USC §  9908 (a)(3) requires States to  hold at least                                                                    
     one legislative hearing every three years.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     • The  hearing is  to be held  in conjunction  with the                                                                    
     development of the State Plan.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     • The  State Plan outlines the  activities to undertake                                                                    
     in the Federal Fiscal Year.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     •  Alaska's  FFY  2023  State   Plan  is  currently  in                                                                    
     development.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOURNE  stated that  because the state  plan is  lengthy, she                                                               
would briefly outline  the major components.  She  moved to slide                                                               
5,  titled "CSBG  - Program  Components," which  read as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The  RurAL CAP  identifies  several program  components                                                                    
     through the following departments:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     • Administrative Services                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
      • Child Development Division • Community Development                                                                      
     Division                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     • Development and Communications                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • Planning and Construction Division                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     • Supportive Housing Division                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOURNE reminded  the committee that each  of these components                                                               
are  described in  detail in  the state  plan.   She moved  on to                                                               
slide 6, titled "CSBG -  Outcome Measures," which read as follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Identified in the State Plan:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     • Track results and report on quarterly basis.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     • Progress reviewed by RurAL CAP staff, who use it to                                                                      
     evaluate results and make changes when necessary.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOURNE  concluded the presentation  by stating that  both the                                                               
department, and  the Rural Alaska Community  Action Program, Inc.                                                               
(RurAL  CAP)  place  a  strong   emphasis  on  promoting  maximum                                                               
participation for  rural residents  in the elimination  of causes                                                               
and conditions of poverty.  She  said today she wished to educate                                                               
the public and accept comments.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:14:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SCHRAGE  asked Ms.  Bourne  whether  she had  been  the                                                               
grants administrator for 11 years.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOURNE replied yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:  Division of  Community and  Regional Affairs  and                                                               
RurAL Cap                                                                                                                       
  PRESENTATION: Division of Community and Regional Affairs and                                                              
                           RurAL Cap                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:15:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be  a presentation  by  the Division  of  Community and  Regional                                                               
Affairs and RurAL Cap.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:15:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIEL  SMITH,  Chief  Executive Officer,  Rural  Alaska  Community                                                               
Action Program, Inc. (RurAL CAP),  presented a PowerPoint, titled                                                               
"Public  Hearing  Community  Services  Block  grant"  [hard  copy                                                               
included in  the committee  packet], and  began by  providing his                                                               
background.    He  stated  that  Ms.  Bourne's  presentation  was                                                               
extremely  meaningful  and  highlighted  that  CAP  agencies  are                                                               
unique  in  that  they  are not  trying  to  subsidize  someone's                                                               
living,  but rather  trying to  educate, participate  in healing,                                                               
and help individuals change.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:19:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH  pointed  out  the "amazing  mission"  this  year,  as                                                               
strategic planning  will not be  changed, but rather  expanded to                                                               
areas of development  which will be discussed today.   He focused                                                               
on the  fifth slide,  titled "Statewide  Impact," which  showed a                                                               
map of the  areas of development, and he pointed  out a narrative                                                               
report that should be included in the committee packet.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:20:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN  sought to  confirm that there  was only  one CAP                                                               
agency in Alaska, whereas most states have many.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH  replied that is  correct and  gave a brief  summary of                                                               
where the CAP  agency came from in the 1960s.   He explained that                                                               
rural CAP  is no different  in leadership change, adding  that he                                                               
was  not here  to  emphasize that.   He  proceeded  to the  sixth                                                               
slide,  titled   "Statewide  Impact,"   which  read   as  follows                                                               
[original punctuation provided]:                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     FY 2021 Highlights:                                                                                                        
       •   233   adults   and   315   children   received                                                                       
     transitional or affordable housing                                                                                         
          • 125 families' homes were weatherized                                                                                
          • 22 Tribes received training and technical                                                                           
     assistance through the Alaska Tribal Justice Resource                                                                      
     Center                                                                                                                     
        • 639 children were enrolled in Early Head Start                                                                        
     and Head Start programs                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:25:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH  reiterated that  success  could  not be  accomplished                                                               
without  partners,  including  tribes  and  government  relations                                                               
working  together  and collaborating.    He  stated there  is  no                                                               
healing or change without education first.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:26:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HANNAN referred  to the  639 children  enrolled in  the                                                               
Early  Head Start/Head  Start  programs,  and questioned  whether                                                               
that number  is the entirety of  the Head Start programs  or only                                                               
the programs with which RurAL CAP is coordinating.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH responded it is just RurAL CAP at this time.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:27:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  reported that  in total, at  least 3,000                                                               
kids  from birth  to age  5 had  been served  through Head  Start                                                               
programs statewide.  She  acknowledged how "critically important"                                                               
the programs are and thanked Mr.  Smith for being one of the Head                                                               
Start providers.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH  commented  how  early   the  brain  starts  absorbing                                                               
information, adding that [age 0-5]  is a very influential time of                                                               
life.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:29:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND asked  whether the  Parents as  Teachers                                                               
program  is affiliated  with the  RurAL CAP  program in  parts of                                                               
Southeast Alaska.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH  confirmed that is correct.   He proceeded to  slide 7,                                                               
titled  "Community  Driven  Planning  &  Development,"  where  he                                                               
stressed a  focus on housing.   He stated that since  taking over                                                               
as the Chief Executive Officer (CEO)  role last year, he has been                                                               
meeting  with  the partners,  funders,  and  stakeholders to  see                                                               
where the work has been together  and to refresh it going forward                                                               
and set new  goals.  Also highlighted with housing,  he said, was                                                               
that education  and healing  will occur when  there are  good and                                                               
well-built homes to complement living.   In addition, he stressed                                                               
the importance of sustainability and food security.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:35:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN  referred to  the governor's  task force  on food                                                               
security,  indicating  that  there  will  be  another  bill  next                                                               
spring.    She encouraged  RurAL  CAP  to  have  a voice  in  the                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:38:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  asked what  RurAL CAP  is doing  to avoid                                                               
redundancy with their partners.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH responded that it  takes ongoing outreach to individual                                                               
partners that provide  services in a similar arena  as RurAL CAP,                                                               
but also development  planning.  He said RurAL  CAP was utilizing                                                               
its communication avenues  while also building new  ones that can                                                               
provide what other organizations are doing.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  pointed out that  RurAL CAP is  the point                                                               
organization  for these  projects.   He  asked whether  different                                                               
organizations report to RurAL CAP.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH replied that it is  less about reporting and more about                                                               
collaboration  and sharing  so the  organizations complement  one                                                               
another.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY  asked how  one  audits  the progress  if                                                               
there is collaboration but no data sharing.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH  clarified that there  is a sharing element  within the                                                               
organizations.   He explained that  a data team within  the child                                                               
development division assembles and reports data regularly.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:42:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY alluded  to  a  baseline of  longitudinal                                                               
studies.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:42:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN summarized  Representative McCarty's question and                                                               
asked  Mr. Smith  how RurAL  CAP  is reporting  success for  each                                                               
program based on a baseline analysis.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH responded they have  monthly and quarterly reports they                                                               
measure  against  and  continue  to do  planning  going  forward.                                                               
There is a  whole system of assessment that  allows for measuring                                                               
success, he added.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY asked about  challenges for RurAL CAP over                                                               
the past three years.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH  replied  that there  are  easily  obtainable  reports                                                               
available in areas  of success and those in  which improvement is                                                               
needed.   He  said  there  had also  been  a  recent CSBG  report                                                               
accounting system updated in the last  three years, as well as an                                                               
updated  human  resources  (HR) system,  which  allows  for  more                                                               
accuracy being reported.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY stated  that he would like  to receive the                                                               
more accurate reports.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:45:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SCHRAGE offered  his perception as to  what happens with                                                               
the money flow  after the funds are administered.   He stated his                                                               
understanding that the federal government  issues the CSBG, which                                                               
flows  to  the  state  of  Alaska,  after  which  the  funds  are                                                               
administered by  Ms. Bourne as  grants to  RurAL CAP.   RurAL CAP                                                               
then further  administers the funds to  partner organizations and                                                               
utilizes the  funds to  administer programs  in-house.   He asked                                                               
whether this is accurate.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH directed the question to Ms. Bourne.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:47:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAULETTA BOURNE,  Grant Administrator, Division of  Community and                                                               
Regional Affairs,  Department of  Commerce, Community  & Economic                                                               
Development   (DCCED),   confirmed    that   Co-Chair   Schrage's                                                               
understanding of the  flow of funding was accurate.   Part of the                                                               
plan to health and human  services, she explained, identifies how                                                               
the  board   wants  to  utilize   the  funds.    Once   they  are                                                               
distributed, she said, then outcome measures must be shown.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH confirmed  that what  Co-Chair  Schrage perceived  was                                                               
stated very  well.   He added  that the  partners with  whom they                                                               
have grant relationships with take  advantage of the funds, which                                                               
is where  data and reports are  assembled and reported back.   He                                                               
referred back  to the program  areas that take advantage  of CSBG                                                               
funds, including  construction, child development,  and community                                                               
development.  He  said RurAL CAP leverages the  CSBD dollars with                                                               
the programs to accomplish the mission of a block grant.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:50:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SCHRAGE said  he appreciated  the  opportunity to  have                                                               
this conversation and  learn more.  With respect  to the programs                                                               
RurAL CAP runs in-house, he asked  whether Mr. Smith is in charge                                                               
of all  the programs or  whether there are  program coordinators.                                                               
He asked how it all works.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH explained  that he has a team of  people he works with,                                                               
composed  of an  executive team  and directors  over each  of the                                                               
program  areas.   In  the end,  he stated,  there  are about  400                                                               
employees in various communities who all execute the mission.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SCHRAGE thanked Mr. Smith for the helpful information.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:52:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN asked whether there  is any headway being made in                                                               
safe housing  and adequate  conditions in  Alaska -  mainly rural                                                               
Alaska.  She questioned whether that  is an achievable goal.  She                                                               
gave examples of the hardships  that can be experienced living in                                                               
rural Alaska.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH provided  his perspective, stating that he  has a board                                                               
chair  and that  RurAL CAP  is focused  on housing  with all  the                                                               
other entities.   He said there is slow progress  being made, and                                                               
there  is much  to  do.   There is  an  outmigration problem,  he                                                               
explained, from rural  Alaska into the central hubs,  so the low-                                                               
income housing is being built as  there is a strong need in urban                                                               
areas; however,  there are many who  still want to remain  in the                                                               
rural villages they grew up in.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:56:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND  related that  when  she  first came  to                                                               
Alaska, a lot  of housing was built in the  Pacific Northwest and                                                               
barged up to many of the  villages in Alaska.  She explained that                                                               
the walls  were prefabricated with  wiring and plumbing  and were                                                               
then stacked  and assembled in  the villages  due to the  lack of                                                               
facilities to build them in the villages.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH  thanked Representative  Drummond  for  her input  and                                                               
important  points.    He  stated there  is  currently  a  housing                                                               
business  case   with  assessments  for  the   right  design  and                                                               
location.  All the elements are being considered, he added.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:01:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SCHRAGE expressed confusion as  he read through a report                                                               
and asked how the statewide plans relate to each other.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH  responded it may  be a two-part  answer.  He  began by                                                               
simplifying that  the needs assessment determines  how to execute                                                               
in all the program areas.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:04:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOURNE  added that  42 U.S.C. requires  that agencies  have a                                                               
strategic plan,  a needs  assessment, and  a budget  to implement                                                               
the program.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:05:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SCHRAGE commented  that  RurAL CAP  works  to deploy  a                                                               
funding strategy.   He asked whether the reports  on various work                                                               
areas RurAL CAP engages in could be found online.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH  replied if the information  is not on the  website, it                                                               
can be made available.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:06:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   MCCARTY  reflected   back   to  the   discussion                                                               
mentioning food  security and  the rural areas  that depend  on a                                                               
different paradigm of food security,  where traditional values of                                                               
food security may have been altered.   He asked whether RurAL CAP                                                               
is exploring those traditional values.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH  replied absolutely.  He  relayed that he also  sits on                                                               
the Bristol  Bay Native Corporation  Board, which has  a cultural                                                               
and traditional development program area  that goes back to their                                                               
shareholders.  He discussed leveraging  the wisdom and experience                                                               
of the  elders and letting  youth participate in  resetting their                                                               
understanding  of language,  culture,  and a  subsistence way  of                                                               
life.  The focus is on  understanding the intimate nature of that                                                               
culture, he said.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCARTY  inquired about the  cultural significance                                                               
of a multi-generational household.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH  replied that being culturally  sensitive is important,                                                               
and he highlighted the importance  of collaborative and strategic                                                               
thinking with  different areas of Alaska.   He agreed there  is a                                                               
community element  in their housing and  in functioning together,                                                               
but it is not all created equal throughout the state.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:11:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN asked  Mr. Smith to rephrase a  statement he made                                                               
earlier regarding Bristol Bay.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH  replied  that Bristol  Bay  comprises  roughly  8,000                                                               
people, 10,000 bears, and 50 million fish.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HANNAN asked  Mr. Smith  whether she  could appropriate                                                               
that and use it.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH confirmed yes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HANNAN  mentioned that  in  Juneau,  Tlingit and  Haida                                                               
Central Council purchased  a contractor and its  forte is modular                                                               
commercial  buildings.   After the  contract  was purchased,  the                                                               
council's goal was workforce development  and the idea of modular                                                               
construction inside the rainforest as a successful enterprise.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH  said that  "one size  does not  fit all,"  adding that                                                               
Central  and Southwest  Alaska are  different  areas and  require                                                               
potentially   different    designs,   as   well    as   different                                                               
circumstances.   All  these elements  are a  part of  making sure                                                               
there is a  solution in the communities.  He  stated that a model                                                               
has to be there for it to be sustainable.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:16:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SCHRAGE  referred back  to slide 5,  "Statewide Impact,"                                                               
and questioned  numbers 1 and  3 [corresponding  handout included                                                               
in  the  committee  packet],  as  to what  drives  the  level  of                                                               
spending in  a region.  He  also asked for clarity  regarding the                                                               
$9 million for the Cook Inlet Tribal Council Region.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH  replied  that  the  ingredients  that  make  up  that                                                               
particular allocation  are the economy,  the population,  and the                                                               
application, all  of which allow these  areas to benefit.   It is                                                               
not specific to  one area, he said, adding  that Co-Chair Schrage                                                               
was right  in questioning  the allocation  of funds  to different                                                               
areas.  It will change going forward, he said.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SCHRAGE asked whether the  aforementioned $9 million was                                                               
distributed to  entities that are  headquartered at  the location                                                               
or  whether  some  of  the  funds are  "bleeding"  out  to  other                                                               
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH replied he would have to do a "deeper dive" on that.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:21:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND sought to  clarify whether the $9 million                                                               
is  leveraged with  grants and  other resources,  and whether  it                                                               
covers salaries.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:22:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BOURNE  replied that  is the  "beauty" about  the CSBG  - the                                                               
ability to  combine funding to  help the cause and  conditions of                                                               
poverty.  She  added that performance results must  also be shown                                                               
to  ensure  that  the  monies  are reaching  as  many  people  as                                                               
possible throughout the state.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH commented  that he  would be  better prepared  to talk                                                               
about the numbers next time.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:24:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY  asked  whether  prefabs  are  done  here                                                               
rather than in the Lower 48.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SMITH replied  that RurAL  CAP  is not  in that  development                                                               
space yet;  however, RurAL CAP  is looking for  development ideas                                                               
and  will  be  continuing  to explore  that  business  model  and                                                               
partnership with others that are doing it already.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:26:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SCHRAGE  asked  for  confirmation   that  some  of  the                                                               
entities,  such as  Alaska Vocational  Technical Center  (AVTEC),                                                               
actually started within RurAL CAP.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH  listed Alaska Village  Initiatives, AVTEC,  and Alaska                                                               
Legal Services Corporation as three  examples of what came out of                                                               
what is now called RurAL CAP.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SCHRAGE asked  whether the  entities still  collaborate                                                               
with and receive funding from RurAL CAP.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. SMITH confirmed Co-Chair Schrage's statement was correct.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:31:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SCHRAGE  expressed appreciation for all  the information                                                               
shared today.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:31:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN noted that Ms. Bourne's boss, Sandra Moller, had                                                                
been available online and thanked her for her work.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:32:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND stated that she was grateful for                                                                        
learning about all the different ways RurAL CAP and the grants                                                                  
program benefits Alaskans.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:33:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee meeting was                                                                   
adjourned at 9:33 a.m.                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HCRA - Alaska 2019 Fact Sheet 3.31.22.pdf HCRA 3/31/2022 8:00:00 AM
HCRA - DCCED - CSBG Presentation 3.31.22.pdf HCRA 3/31/2022 8:00:00 AM
HCRA - CSBG State Plan Testimony 3.31.2022.pdf HCRA 3/31/2022 8:00:00 AM
HCRA - FFY22 CSBG State Plan.pdf HCRA 3/31/2022 8:00:00 AM
HCRA - RurAL CAP Presentation 3.31.22.pdf HCRA 3/31/2022 8:00:00 AM